love carefully

soyez prudents les amis!!!!

SIDA pa guet figir.

Protegez- vous surtout. Je sais que cela n’a rien d’exitant de manger un bonbon avec l’emballage mais si cela peut aider a vivre loin du virus du sida; il faut le faire.

Andrianna comsyr3

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20 thoughts on “love carefully

  1. Welcome to our blog ANN.. trouver toi osi to mank travail nw! 🙂
    Briser le tabou..kon voit le Sida com toute autre maladie. tes propres mots ke je n’oublierai pas. T presentations sur le sujet en classe n’ont pas laissé indifferent aussi Ann..

    ce sont les femmes et les enfants qui les vrais victimes de cette epidemie..

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  2. bonbon avek emballage lol 🙂

    sorry for the dumb question Ishtiba..

    bein couma bannes femmes et zenfants banens vraie victims dan sa cas la???

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  3. Salut,

    je pense ke tu as raison…

    mais il faut penser aussi ke le sexe est source d’autre maladies sexuellement transmissibles… et le SIDA est le plus mortel d;entre eux

    moi, ce que je trouve aberrant c’est le regard ke les gens portent sur les seropositifs… ce regard mefiant et effarant me force a penser ke certaines personnes n’ont pas de coeur pour les autres… on les condamnent avant meme d’avoir pu leurs comprendre…

    il faut ke les seropositifs savent assumer leurs responsibilites et montrer/demontrer aux autres qu’ils sont encore humains et qu’ils vivent avec leurs maladies en temps k’etre responsable envers la societe…

    Mon conseil: soyez ouvert aux autres… tendez une main envers ceus qui en souffrent de ce mal a fin d’appaiser leur douleur… aidez les a retrouvre le sourire et a vivre ‘normalement’ dans cette societe si cruelle parfois

    Zaynah – com yr 4

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  4. Hi vicky

    Good question!

    Je pense que nous sommes tous des victimes potentielles, hommes, femmes et enfants. Cette maladie n’epargne personne.

    Et pour repondre a Zaynah je suis tout a fait d’accord avec elle. Tendre une main est un geste genereux et vous en sortirez plus grand. On a tous tendance a coller des etiquettes mais quand ces memes etiquettes s’affichent sur quelqu’un a qui on tient; c’est la qu’on se rend compte que le sida n’arrive pas qu’aux autres. Un tout petit geste de votre part et s’abstenir de toute discrimination aident ces autres qui vivent et se battent contre cette maladie et leur donnent une raison pour survivre. Et surtout n’oubliez pas les garcons: “mete pardessus”..

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  5. Pour repondre a votre question les mecs!!!

    really a dumb question..meme si Sida pa get figir et que “la maladie n’epargne personne”
    les femmes sont les vrai victimes dans le sens que les femmes sont biologiquement, sociologiquement et économiquement plus vulnérables à l’infection par le VIH… . biologiquement car la femme a plus de risque d’attraper le virus que les hommes..L’infection y est 1,3 fois plus probable chez la femme que chez l’homme.
    this is proved! with a bit of research u wud hav found out guys..:)

    sociologiquement car L devient the “outcast of society”. n’oubliez pas MAlini a Maurice…qu’est t-il arrivé lorsqu’elle a oser avouer qu’elle etait seropositive! les enfants laissé a eux memes..plus vulnerable encore..

    economiquement- plus de travail, pas d’independence pas d’argent = moins de soins…et le cycle infernal continue…p etre coz on est a moris vous pensez autrement mais qu’en est t-il de ces millions de femmes infecté en Afrique? ont-elles les soins necessaires? Au contraire les medicaments leur coute une fortune…et l’etat ne peut subventionner ou acheter tous ses medicaments

    En Afrique subsaharienne les femmes représentent près de 60 % des adultes infectés..n’oubliez pas que le taux de femmes infecté ne cesse d’accroitre.. et croyez vous que c ce qu’elles ont voulu? surtout en Afriq les femmes sont des victimes car beaucoup sont contaminé contre leur gré et ne sachant meme pas qu’elles sont sero positives.. et faut pas oublier les traditions en Afrique aussi et le manque d’autonomie des femmes..
    Les statistiques montrent aussi que, lorsqu’elles sont diagnostiquées séropositives, les femmes accèdent plus tardivement que les hommes au dispositif de soins. Un retard qui touche, là encore, en priorité les plus démunies.

    Les femmes continuent d’avancer à grands pas vers l’égalité avec les hommes et ce que lorsqu’elles sont instruites, capables de gagner leur vie, et protégées par la loi, et independente des hommes..

    Mais pour des MILLIONS de femmes, l’autonomie est un objectif encore lointain. Et ces femmes-là sont les plus vulnérables au VIH.

    je peux continuer a ecrire sur ce sujet mais je v arreter la pour aujourdh’ui…comprenez que les femmes et les enfants sont les vrai vitimes car “elles” sont les plus vulnerables!!!!

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  6. Hi Adrianna..

    bein to ena raison ki comme quoi nou bizin etre plus tolerant et essay tendre la main a ban seropositifs..

    Mais couma to pense pou fer la population comprend sa alors ki ena certain “seroposi…” pe servi seringue infectE pou menace dimoune????

    + bannes ena seropositif pas telment casse la tet avek les zotte dimoune..

    to pou capave trouve ene femme mem ki li connE li infeCte pou continiE prostituE
    Ou mem bannes zomme ki pas casse la tet seri ene capot

    @Ishtiba

    do you have some stats for Mauritius??

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  7. why stats when we all kw that the official one is not represntatative of the prevailing situation in mauritius…

    “” ena certain “seroposi…” pe servi seringue infectE pou menace dimoune””” …did you happen to see some1 doing it? If not, then u shud kw that this story has been started via internet n emails..( incidents happening in movie theatres in Bombay, in UK,Australia etc) n later have been spread by word of mouth to every part of the world people even panicked thking it to be true.

    Anyways trasmission of HIV by this way is very low..i thk only 0.4 % chance of trasmission

    “For HIV infection to take place in this way the needle would need to contain infected blood with s high level of infectious virus. If a person was then pricked with such needle,they could become infected although the chances are very low.” SOurce: Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, Dept of Health n Human Service , USA

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  8. Hi all!!..
    Well, we all have to stand united to face this epidemic and z “emballage” is indeed mandatory here to say the least.

    I think what Viccks wants to say is “WE , both sexes, are exposed to the dangers of being infected to the same extent”…and that’s correct!

    Ishtoba, u are writing a coms “report” out of this issue with a little dose of feminism…
    well, if u read the papers, follow the news on TV and radio,(i bet u do!) you will find that HIV is very often used as a “weapon” by drug addicts…be it on the streets or prisons.
    Talking of prison… that’s the worst place a Non-HIV positive can be! And here we are talking of men mostly… Also, these wont appear in z stats.
    Sticking to “women being vulnerable” wont help much, considering the great number of other ways of contamination…

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  9. I agree that is a feminist viewpoint on this issue…which we often tend to forget though.. bt it was intended to Vicks who asked hw women were the victims!

    HIV as a weapon on the streets…how? by needles, by attacking people? dnt think so as i already said the chance of getting the virus in this way is extremely low…

    But concerning prisons this is a big problem…this is indeed more serious as when they come out of jail being infected, these persons will more likely transmit it to others..there is also a lack of concrete measures by the state to control the situation..

    Even if there has been “The HIV Bill” which has been voted recently, it does not offer concrete measures n dnt kw to wat extent it will change thgs.! there is the legal framework nw but we kw that “action”/ putting all that into practice is not really in the mauritian culture or shud i say the mauritian GOVT culture!!

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  10. FOund this on the net…

    “Circumcision is key in stopping the transmission of the virus that causes AIDS” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16184582/

    According to studies made in Africa, it has been found that circumcision may reduce (to a great extent) the risk of HIV contamination in men engaging in heterosexual intercourse…This means it can be an effective measure to limit the rapid spreading of the virus in Africa..in the long run it will reduce the number of persons infected n can also at the same time lead to fewer infections in women..only for heterosexual mode of transmission though!

    The benefits of circumcision wer already discovered some thousands of yrs before..Circumcision for reducing infections were already discovered in Ancient Egypt! workers and soldiers were often circumcised to reduce infections and it was observed that those never crept up again..And nw researchers have found a link btw Circumcision n HIV virus…

    Men should not stop using condoms when circumcised nor take other risks also. This is not the final n only solution to AIDS but still “scientists say the reduction of infection is so substantial that the findings cannot be ignored”. If this is a way to save millions of lives.. why not?

    A NEW MEASURE TO FIGHT AIDS OR MERE MUTILATION? Its up to you to decide!!

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  11. Nice bit of research there But still pas facile pou fer dimoune comprend sa!!
    lots of stuffs rentre ladan.. when nou coze pou morice.. religion tousa

    another Dumb thought..
    If by using a condom we’re protected.. y circumcise and then use a condom afterall 😛

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  12. hi to u,

    thx for your research Ishtiba…

    1 point i would like to add: The Judas followers do circumcise as well as The Muslims.. even some christians do circumcision….so Mr Vicks, where does religion falls in it? Dont blame our small island’s diversity of cultures and traditions…

    Above all, It is a matter of ‘democratising’ the clinical aspect of circumcision that people should go forward to…. where and who get access to being circumcised… some factors may sometime be at people’s own detriment!

    we should not forget also, that in Africa, tribal baby-boys are circumcised at a very early age and by the ‘traditional spiritual doctors’…

    Some may find it as a loss of their body (especially grown up man!)… and some may find as a spiritual uplifting(especially for those converted muslims and Judas followers)

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  13. I agree its a bit dificult to make people understand.

    In Africa many still refuse to use condoms, so circumcision will be partial protection for them… as its more difficult to contract and pass on HIV. Even partial protection will represent substantial progress as no vaccine has been found that can reduce infections. And Acc. to a WHO study we could prevent nearly six million new HIV infections and save three million lives in sub-Saharan Africa over the next 20 years. It also reduces many STD.

    Moreover, it represents a cheaper way to fight against AIDS as anti-retroviral drugs remain very expensive for many African countries.

    Concerning religion, you shud kw that in the US (christian country) most men r already circumcised..n many other countries r promoting it.Catholics r cirumcised! Jews also! Smts religion itself creates more problems.Take for instance the Vatican’s viewpoint on contraception n condoms for yrs..!! Its a shame that using condoms was seen as a sin by the Church..n wat happened entretemps? Millions have been infected and so many dead!

    And we shud not forget that millions of lives can be saved…This is very serious and should not be taken as a joke.

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  14. welll gurlsssss am talking about MAURITIUS here!! lets get our hands dirty….

    am a Cse student and working with this dumb machine tend to make us programmers have some other logic 😛

    i never said that circumcision will do no good about aids!!! 😛

    and MISS zaynah religion does come in it.. how can you talk about mauritius and not mention hindus??? lol
    try to convince them to circumcise!!

    again no one answered the question.. if you are asking a guy to circumcise to minise the risk of getting contaminated during intercourse and after that you still ask him to use a condom then.. whats the use of circumcising in this case?? using a condom wouldn’t have been enough??

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  15. Well said Zayna!

    U never said that Circumcision will do no good! But I have the feeling that you r not taking ths matter seriously. It is not smg we joke about ! So, Let me answer Mr Vicks ‘dumb’ questions!

    Y circumcise when using condoms afterwards? Logical…

    But let me explain that here we are talking of Africa. You r quite lucky to be able to have easy access to condoms in Mtius. But nw thk of Africans!! Access to condoms is 1 of the major problems when fighting AIDS on the African continent. Coupled with the refusal to use them (due to religious convictons or according to the norms of their community), this makes it even more difficult to fight AIDS by using the best defence ( i.e. condoms). N those using condoms dont do it on a constant basis!! yet another difficulty with condoms in Africa!

    We all kw that condoms is the fundamental and best defence, but when these persons r not getting them, what shud they do? Dont you thk they deserve another means of protection even if partial?

    So, circumcision is the solution for the moment! Fistly, some African communities may be in favour of this compared to the use of condoms. They will more easily accept this pratice.

    The use of Circumcising proves very important for these countries as it will reduce millions of new infections. Coz its easier than changing the mentality on usage of condoms.

    Using a condom wudn’t have been enough???? BUT..Provided they have access to that condom !!!!! n provided that they use it!!

    About Hindus…je veux pas entrer dans la polemique! Libre choix a vous de reconnaitre la credibilté de cette etude…Donc a vous de l’accepter ou pas!

    Thus reducing the risk of contamination by Circumcision is already a good thing..but it is not the solution to Aids as I said..Information and prevention campaigns must continue on the use of condoms also in the long run…

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  16. hi,

    i would be very happy if you could come a bit outside of ur ‘machine’ thoughts….

    well, let’s talk about MAURITIUS man…

    in Mauritius, All Muslims parents circumcise their baby boys on the 6th day after his birth… and a sacrifice of 2 goats is done at the same time( jst a bit of the traditional aspect)…

    and it so happens that our island inhabits some jews, and they do the circumcision in the clinics… as well as the orthodox christians livin on the island…

    as far as the Hindu, it so happens that the Hindu community refers to India for their culture and traditions with respect to almost evrything in their life… some hindus would likely go for a circumcision if there is a serious matter (like syphillis occurring frequently).. it is merely a clinical aspect then.. but then i doubt if Hindus in Mauritius know that some tribal hindu communities in India do circumcise their baby boys…

    it will be only a matter of communicating effectively the right message to the people of several communities to adopt the circumcision in order to be more higieninc (hey am not implying tha uncircumcised man are not hiegienic)..

    well, let me try to reply to your ‘twice-asked-unanswered question’:

    in fact, mo ti envi reponne twa li imper ‘cri’ mem, mais c 1 educational based blog of UoM…. so, am censuring my words and some parts of them!

    1. The use of a condom does not even assure you protection against AIDS… so y using it for sexual intercourse… rubber products allow for a certaing amount of air circulation… and may results in ‘fuite’ cases…

    2. When a guy is circumcised, it protects him from other sex diseases such as Syphillis and other ‘demangeasons”… may be u kno better than me the other transferrable and non-transferrable sex diseases

    3. The uncircumcised area of a guy is most likely to keep engendering bacteria if not properly cleaned after sexual intercourse… or even for ‘gay’ intercourse

    4. Using a condom would not still be enough for an uncircumcised guy to assure a 100% protection agaist AIDS…

    5. besides, a condom is also used to control birth-rate… but here again, some ‘fuite’ do occurs and the population increases again

    6. One thing you have forgotten, what about women here? the use of a condom for a circumcised/uncircumcised guy protects the guy as well in order not to contract any diseases from the woman….

    I think i have said enough…. hope you understand dear… otherwise, just too bad Mr Vicks!

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  17. @ Istiba

    — i know the matter is serious and believe am not joking..

    i think we are talking on a different planes..
    i am concern with the situation and talking of Mauritius.. and not really Africa..
    and you for some reasons.. maybe because of the stats or research you pulled out from the net keep talking about africa.. etc 🙂

    if have a look at my 3rd comment.. i said “When nou coze pou morice”

    i completely agree with the bit of research you pulled out about circumsion and maybe it does work

    But put stats, research and google aside.. lets hear

    what you think??Are Mauritians ready for this?? Many still don’t know much about Aids..

    In a country like Mauritius where there are ethic manifestation whenever the tv program grid changes..
    will something like circumcision go by smoothly ??
    without religious organisation making a lot of fuss??

    @zaynah

    Am completly for the use of condoms…

    got 3 answers for your first 3 points

    1.will circumcision and a condom assure you protection against aids??

    2.will a condom only not enough?? aren’t there circumcised men with these diseases??
    btw is circumcision if badly done lead to these disease??

    3.Even circumcised guy should clean himself properly!!!!!!!! 🙂

    i know am a bit difficult and minante But i rarely backup from an argument and discussions like this help us to understand alot more about various stuffs 😛

    By the way best way to be safe from sTD is to be have only 1 sex partner and expect the same from the latter 😛

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  18. I agree there r ethnic problems related to this issue.
    However, in this society we can no more stick to wat religious orgs dictate or want!Am an optimist n maybe too idealist also, but i stongly believe that with effective information n communication campaigns, we can break religious barriers/convictions etc. As a com student I believe in the power of good communication, of dialogue…BUT U SHUD NOT FORGET this is not imposed…the person concerned is free to decide.

    I talked of Africa coz the study was aimed primarily for africans..u r right in saying so but u shud undersatnd that its where it has been so difficult to fight against this epidemic, wher the level of contamination is not really diminishing despite all the efforts n measures!

    Many still dont kw much about Aids in Mtius? We shud ask ourselves WHY?
    the fact is Aids campaigns so far have been ineffective. The messages had not been delivered to the right audience. the mediums wer nt good! I thk mauritius, considering the “taboo”etc, shud nt do campaigns on national level. this doesnt really work..perhaps its only the yousgters that undesrtand it all but wat about others, grandparents, adults, even children?

    Campaigns here shud be more based on prevention n information..Maybe one way to remove this discomfort when this issue is raised is by recognizing different target audience and their age. then, we shud implement different campaigns targeting these different audiences. this might be much more effective n people will more easily understand the whole issue.

    And finally, i thk in Mtius its Us, the younger generation that shud put a stop to all this s**t about religious org, ethnic manifestation, etc.

    I cannot imagine youngsters still talking like that! We r the future of Mtius, we shud be the catalyst for a better country, for progress and ABOVE ALL change in Mentality!!

    Ya I kw am an idealist! 🙂

    Ishtiba

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  19. Vicky pou to question couma mo pense pou fair pou rane dimoun responsable; je n’ai pas la pretention de croire qu’a moi seule je peux changer le monde ou la mentalite des gens. Mais i strongly believe que si tu veux changer quelque chose li commence lor n plan individuel et le fait d’en parler sa peut aider. Je peux le dir a 100 personnes et si seulement 5 ont recu le msg c’est deja bien parce quils vont convaincre encore 5 et la chaine continuera. Il faut commencer par soi et en parler, c’est tout ce que lon peut faire et c’est un debut. Si tout dimoun pense com toi, on est mal parti.

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